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Anniston council members meet with Creek Indians

Three Anniston City Councilmen met Monday with Creek Indian officials from Oklahoma, but the Creeks didn’t offer much new information about their claim to the former Fort McClellan.

Tiger Hobia, the Kialegee Tribal Town’s town king, and Henry Harjo, who spoke for Hobia throughout most of the meeting, said they couldn’t disclose exactly what the group wants at McClellan or what they would do with the land.

“We can’t say exactly what we want because we’re still doing our due diligence and speaking with everyone we need to talk to about this,” Harjo said.

He said Monday’s visit was mainly to introduce the council to Hobia.

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via Anniston Star – Anniston City Council meeting with Oklahoma Creek Indian group.

CREEK-SOUTHEAST post/query – dated 13 April 2009

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Hey Tim,

There are quite a few Creek Reserves in Alabama and Georgia. They were
granted to “Friendly Creeks”. In most cases, the legal owners were driven off
their lands only a short time after the reserves were granted. I don’t
know the legal particulars of the two tracts you read about, however.

Jacksonville University advertises on its web site that the original land
for the college was purchased from a Creek mikko named Ladiga.

Richard T.
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Notes on the Creek Indians http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creeknotes/index.htm

Early Creek History http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/early-history/

Migration Legend of the Creek Indians ref=”">http://www.accessgenealogy.com/native/creek/migration/

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This make m e wonder if Anniston Council Member Ben Little actually has found something that give The creek Nation claims to a good portion of what is now Jacksonville, Alabama; if not part of McClellan…

NOTE: Links were made made ‘active’ by me.

– Cathy Ann Abernathy

Anniston Councilman Ben Little is warning local banks and real estate companies that old documents show the Creek Indian tribe may have claim to McClellan property, but his own claim may not hold up.
The mapping department in the Calhoun County Revenue Commissioner’s Office says the documents don’t support Little’s assertions.
In fact, the documents don’t even refer to land at McClellan. The land described in the documents is in Jacksonville and includes much of the Jacksonville State University campus.
Little said Monday he’d been distributing the material to local real estate firms and banks to discourage them from investing in projects at the former military post.
“The intent is to inform them, the bankers, the lending institutions,” Little said. “… I would not move forward in spending another dime until this thing is cleared up.”
Little’s actions are his latest attempt to call into question the control of McClellan. He, along with Councilman Herbert Palmore and former Councilman Stan Bennett, have worked against state legislation that would recognize the McClellan Development Authority.
McClellan officials say they are not worried about Little’s claims. Little, for his part, said he is not worried about the contradictory information from the mapping office, saying he believes the tribe does have claim to some McClellan property. He offered no proof of this, however, when asked for it Monday.
Little obtained the records he is circulating from the Calhoun County Probate Office. They include a document filed by the U.S. Department of the Interior’s Bureau of Land Management in 2003. The document contains a 1912 federal law relinquishing the government’s claims to lands in Alabama reserved earlier for the Creek tribe and its members. Little also included another document filed in the probate office in 2004. That document, dated 1836, refers to property that mapping department officials say is in Jacksonville.
Probate officials did not know why the documents were filed in recent years.
The second document references 29 sections of property, apparently part of a grant of land made to the tribe and to individual members in an 1832 treaty.
A section is equal to 640 acres. The one section described specifically in the document encompasses the northwest quarter of the city of Jacksonville. The mapping department said the document makes no reference to any land at McClellan….

via Little claims Creeks have claim to McClellan | AnnistonStar.com.
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Strange twist in the Anniston-McClellan reuse struggle…

– Cathy

“I have been made aware, today, that Governor Riley allegedly has written an email letter to some of the 72 papers that publish my syndicated column “Inside the Statehouse.”

If indeed Gov. Riley is the author of the letter which takes issue with my column of Feb 25, 2009, then this letter shall serve as defense of my column.

I stand totally behind the entire column. It is totally true to the best of my knowledge and I do not retract any of it.

Please review the column to refresh the details of the discussion. (…. CLICK LINK for FULL details)

via Cleburne News – Flowers response to letters.

Editor’s Note: The Feb. 26 issue of The Cleburne News carried a column by Steve Flowers in which he stated that out-of-state gambling interests have assisted Gov. Riley during election campaigns. Both Gov. Riley and the Poarch Band of Creek Indians responded with letters reprinted here to give their version of the facts.

Governor’s Response

“Your newspaper may have recently published a column written by Steve Flowers that is totally false in what it says about me. Not just a few mistakes, but every line in it about me is not true. (… CLICK LINK for more details)

via Cleburne News – Flowers column stirs controversy.

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Re: POARCH CREEK FAMILY RESEARCH [Delivered to - weavercat@gmail.com]

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Reply

Hello Evelyn,

Thanks for your question, which is a good one.

The Poarch Ancestral Base Rolls are created from all
Ancestors Identified as Indian on:

1. The 1870 Escambia County, Alabama Federal Census.

2. The 1900 Escambia County, Alabama Federal Census.

3. 1900 Special Indian Census of Monroe County, Alabama.

All Ancestors Identified as Indian on the above listed
census documents are considered fullblood Poarch Creek
Base Roll Ancestors for the purpose of Tribal Enrollment.

Any descendant of the above ancestors who can prove a
direct lineal descent connection with Federal Census
Records, Birth, Death and Marriage Certificates, is a
Poarch Creek Descendant from the Rolls of a Federally
Recognized Tribe. At present some are not eligible for
Tribal Enrollment, but still a Poarch Creek Descendant,
regardless of how small or large their blood degree is
for the purpose of Tribal Enrollment calculations.

The Poarch Rolls as of December 31, 2008 are open to
membership only if a Direct Lineal Dscendant can meet
the following requirements:

ARTICLE I – MEMBERSHIP
Section 1. Eligibility

Membership of the Poarch Band of Creek Indians shall consist
of:

(A) All persons enumerated or recognized by the Poarch Band
of Creek Indians Tribal Council as Indian on the following oficial
documents:

(1) 1870 U.S. Census of Escambia County, Alabama;

(2) 1900 U.S. Census of Escambia County, Alabama; and

(3) 1900 U.S. Special Indian Census of Monroe County,
Alabama.

NOTE: For the purpose of computing blood quantum of their
descendants, for tribal membership, all Indians eligible under
Section 1(A) are hereby declared as full blood (4/4) Creek Indians
and shall constitute the base roll of the Poarch Band of Creek
Indians.

(B) All living descendants of those eligible under Section 1(A)
of at least one fourth (1/4) degree Indian blood, provided they are
not enrolled as members of any other federally recognized tribe,
group or band of Indians.

(C) All children of at least one fourth (1/4) degree of Indian
blood born to an enrolled member of the Poarch Band of Creek
Indians.

Provided, however, that no person whose name does not appear
on the oficial tribal roll of the Poarch Band of Creek Indians as of
December 31, 2008, shall be eligible for membership, unless

(i) the person has submitted a completed application by December
31, 2008;

(ii) the person is eighteen (18) years of age or younger on December
31, 2008 and a completed application for his or her membership is
submitted by his or her twenty-first birthday

(iii) the person is born on or after December 31, 2008 and a completed
application for his or her membership is submitted by his or her twenty-
first birthday; or

(iv) the person becomes eligible for membership because of a correction in an enrolled tribal member’s blood quantum.

Examples of those who can and cannot enroll at present:

1. A first generation descendant who has a parent on the roll, but
cannot qualify, due to lack of meeting the 1/4 minimum blood degree
requirement. They must somehow increase their blood degree to 1/4
before they are able to apply for Tribal Enrollment. Basically these
first generation descendants are not able to enroll in the Tribe of
their own parents, per Poarch Tribal Enrollment Code. They and their children are not allowed on the rolls of their parents.

2. Those direct lineal descendants who meet the 1/4 minimum blood
degree requirement, but did not apply before December 31, 2008 will
not be able to get on the rolls now.

3. All those Poarch Creek Descendants who have ancestors Identifed
as Indian on the other census years of 1860, 1880, 1910, 1920 and
1930, Escambia, Baldwin and Monroe Counties, are not able to apply
for enrollment, though the Federal census Documents prove their
Indian Ancestry and connections to Poarch.

4. Those direct lineal descendants who do not have a parent on the
roll and do not meet the 1/4 minimum blood degree requirement are
not able to get on the rolls.

5. All those direct lineal descendants who meet the 1/4 blood degree requirement and applied before december 31, 2008 should be on the
Poarch Tribal Rolls.

6. All those first generation descendants who do meet the 1/4 minimum
blood degree requirement, should be on the Poarch Rolls.

Hope this helps one to understand who is a Descendant and who is a Tribal Member, there is a difference according to Poarch Tribal Enrollment Code.

Some are enrolled and some are left off the rolls, but all are Direct Lineal Descendants regardless and all should be able to connect to their Poarch Creek Ancestors, that is their birthright.

Evelyn as you already know, for many years I have researched many of the
Census Documents on the Poarch Band and have names of most all the Poarch Creek Ancestors and many names of the present day Descendants who were
eligible for enrollment or who have already enrolled.

I have calculated their blood degrees from the Poarch Ancestral Base Roll and will be glad to do look ups for anyone who needs to find their Poarch
Creek Family.

Regards,
Steve Travis

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Picking up a few leads from a mail-list I subscribe to…
– CAA

A collection of records and links for those researching their Creek – Muskogee Indian ancestors.

via Creek Indian Researcher – records and links.

A collection of records and links for those researching their Creek – Muskogee Indian ancestors.

via Creek Indian Researcher – records and links.

Southeastern United States Indians, Traders, Commissioners, Agents, Interpreters, and Others Involved in Indian Affairs

-A Bibliography-

via IndianTradeBiblio.

Five Civilized Tribes Genealogy Forum.